{"id":9110,"date":"2024-10-21T11:04:22","date_gmt":"2024-10-21T09:04:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/contrib.city\/?p=9110"},"modified":"2024-11-03T19:31:56","modified_gmt":"2024-11-03T18:31:56","slug":"cet-elu-assume-t-il-ses-declarations-publiques","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/contrib.city\/index.php\/2024\/10\/21\/cet-elu-assume-t-il-ses-declarations-publiques\/","title":{"rendered":"Cet \u00e9lu assume-t-il ses d\u00e9clarations publiques\u00a0?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\">Dans un message public r\u00e9cent, M. Didier Morin, \u00e9lu municipal de la commune de Jouy-en-Josas (78) et d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9 \u00e0 l&#8217;urbanisme, m\u2019avait accus\u00e9, en personne, d\u2019\u00eatre incomp\u00e9tent en mati\u00e8re d&#8217;am\u00e9nagement du territoire, de pr\u00e9vention des inondations et de n\u2019avoir aucune connaissance d&#8217;un ancien terrain du R\u00e9seau Ferr\u00e9 de France (RFF), o\u00f9 un projet de constructions sur une zone inondable est actuellement en d\u00e9bat.<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\">Quelque part, j\u2019ai eu envie de r\u00e9pondre au Conseiller municipal qu\u2019il avait raison. Fid\u00e8le \u00e0 la sagesse de Socrate et de son disciple Platon, je fais mienne la fameuse citation : <em>J<\/em><i>e sais que je ne sais rien<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\">Donc, sachant que je ne sais rien, j\u2019ai voulu savoir et conna\u00eetre davantage le dossier de cette zone et je me suis adress\u00e9 \u00e0 mon accusateur, d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019urbanisme pour la ville de Jouy-en-Josas. Je lui ai pos\u00e9 cette question :<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span lang=\"fr-FR\"><b>Pouvez-vous me confirmer [\u2026] que vous \u00eates en faveur de la construction de plusieurs b\u00e2timents, et des \u00e9quipements qui vont avec, sur cette zone inondable?<\/b><\/span> (courriel du 14\/10\/2024).<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\">Par ailleurs, M. Morin avait \u00e9galement \u00e9crit que l<span lang=\"fr-FR\">es friches RFF \u00e9taient <\/span><span lang=\"fr-FR\"><i>largement imperm\u00e9abilis\u00e9es \u00e0 l&#8217;heure actuelle par la pr\u00e9sence de routes et d&#8217;ancienne plateforme<\/i><\/span><span lang=\"fr-FR\">. Comprenez : donc on peut construire sur ce terrain puisque le mal est d\u00e9j\u00e0 fait. Toujours dans la logique de mon ignorance, j\u2019ai demand\u00e9 \u00e0 notre cher Conseiller municipal un autre renseignement :<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span lang=\"fr-FR\"><b>Quel est le pourcentage actuel de la superficie de ce terrain [RFF] qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 imperm\u00e9abilis\u00e9&nbsp;?<\/b><\/span> <span lang=\"fr-FR\">(courriel du 14\/10\/2024).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span lang=\"fr-FR\">Afin que le dossier avance, et comme son accusation d\u2019incomp\u00e9tence \u00e0 mon \u00e9gard \u00e9tait claire et nette (<\/span><span lang=\"fr-FR\"><i>Le probl\u00e8me quand on parle de ce que l&#8217;on ne connait pas c&#8217;est que l&#8217;on en arrive \u00e0 dire n&#8217;importe quoi Bertrand de Foucauld<\/i><\/span><span lang=\"fr-FR\">. Cf : Facebook du 12 octobre 2024), je lui avais demand\u00e9 d\u2019informer les Jovaciens, avant le jeudi 17 octobre, sur la proportion de ces friches qui \u00e9tait <i>largement imperm\u00e9abilis\u00e9e<\/i>. Cependant, \u00e0 l&#8217;heure de la publication de cet article, notre expert en urbanisme n\u2019avait toujours pas r\u00e9pondu \u00e0 mes deux questions et n\u2019avait donc pas voulu faire profiter de sa science les habitants de la commune.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span lang=\"fr-FR\">Pourtant, dans la dynamique scientifique \u2013 quelqu\u2019un qui accuse publiquement une autre personne de dire <\/span><span lang=\"fr-FR\"><i>n\u2019importe quoi<\/i><\/span> \u2013 l\u2019accusateur doit justement expliquer pourquoi le propos incrimin\u00e9 est <i>n\u2019importe quoi.<\/i> Il doit apporter des chiffres \u00e0 son argument et les sources de ces m\u00eames chiffres.<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\">Du point de vue l\u00e9gal, et selon l\u2019article 15 de la D\u00e9claration des droits de l\u2019homme et du citoyen, que malheureusement notre cher Conseiller municipal semble ne pas comprendre, M. Morin a l\u2019obligation de r\u00e9pondre aux citoyens\/contribuables qui le questionnent sur des d\u00e9penses publiques.<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\">Mais, je le r\u00e9p\u00e8te, malgr\u00e9 cette double obligation, l\u2019une morale et l\u2019autre l\u00e9gale, M. Didier Morin n\u2019a point daign\u00e9 r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 ces deux questions qui lui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 publiquement adress\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\">Est-ce \u00e9tonnant ? D\u2019un c\u00f4t\u00e9, oui : les citoyens sont en droit d\u2019attendre que chaque \u00e9lu remplisse son devoir et tout manquement \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard peut surprendre. D\u2019autre part, M. Morin est habitu\u00e9 \u00e0 ne pas r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 des questions publiques qui concernent pourtant l\u2019urbanisme. Nous y reviendrons.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9114\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9114\" style=\"width: 635px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9114 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Accusation-de-Didier-Morin-extrait.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"635\" height=\"136\" srcset=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Accusation-de-Didier-Morin-extrait.jpg 635w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Accusation-de-Didier-Morin-extrait-300x64.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9114\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Accusation directe de Didier Morin (Facebook, 12 octobre 2024)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9126\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9126\" style=\"width: 865px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9126 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mon-courriel-a-Morin-2024-10-14-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"865\" height=\"655\" srcset=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mon-courriel-a-Morin-2024-10-14-3.jpg 865w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mon-courriel-a-Morin-2024-10-14-3-300x227.jpg 300w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mon-courriel-a-Morin-2024-10-14-3-768x582.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 865px) 100vw, 865px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9126\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mon mail \u00e0 Didier Morin le 14 10 2024. A ce jour, aucune r\u00e9ponse de la part du conseiller municipal de Jouy-en-Josas d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9 \u00e0 l&#8217;urbanisme.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9117\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9117\" style=\"width: 1682px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9117 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-Plan-urbain.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1682\" height=\"911\" srcset=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-Plan-urbain.jpg 1682w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-Plan-urbain-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-Plan-urbain-1024x555.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-Plan-urbain-768x416.jpg 768w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-Plan-urbain-1536x832.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1682px) 100vw, 1682px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9117\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Plan urbain de l&#8217;ancien terrain RFF (octobre 2024). Cet espace est d\u00e9limit\u00e9, au nord, par la ligne de chemin de fer et les quais de la gare; \u00e0 l&#8217;ouest, au sud et \u00e0 l&#8217;est, par la ligne pointill\u00e9e. On remarque que les zones imperm\u00e9abilis\u00e9es sont les deux chemins goudronn\u00e9s partant de l&#8217;ouest et de l&#8217;est (j&#8217;ai compt\u00e9 3 m de largeur), ainsi que l&#8217;ancienne plateforme logistique du Sernam. Enfin, on note sur le plan, au nord-ouest du terrain, l&#8217;indication d&#8217;un second b\u00e2timent (ce dernier n&#8217;appara\u00eet pas sur la photo satellite). La zone imperm\u00e9abilis\u00e9e (1663 m\u00b2 environ) repr\u00e9sente moins de 20% de la surface totale de la zone (8500 m\u00b2 environ. Cf : Le Parisien 12 avril 2021). Quid alors, pour reprendre l&#8217;expression de notre d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9 municipal \u00e0 l&#8217;urbanisme, d&#8217;un terrain &#8220;largement imperm\u00e9abilis\u00e9&#8221;? Dans la r\u00e9alit\u00e9, plus de 80% du terrain RFF est encore v\u00e9g\u00e9talis\u00e9.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9130\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9130\" style=\"width: 1679px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9130 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-photo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1679\" height=\"909\" srcset=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-photo.jpg 1679w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-photo-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-photo-1024x554.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-photo-768x416.jpg 768w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Terrain-RFF-photo-1536x832.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1679px) 100vw, 1679px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9130\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Un terrain &#8220;largement artificialis\u00e9&#8221; selon les dires de Didier Morin, d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9 \u00e0 l&#8217;urbanisme. Au vu de la v\u00e9g\u00e9tation pr\u00e9sente, il est permis d&#8217;en douter. Source : IGN, octobre 2024.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9135\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9135\" style=\"width: 2560px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9135 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Chemin-goudronne-RFF-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1438\" srcset=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Chemin-goudronne-RFF-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Chemin-goudronne-RFF-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Chemin-goudronne-RFF-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Chemin-goudronne-RFF-768x431.jpg 768w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Chemin-goudronne-RFF-1536x863.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Chemin-goudronne-RFF-2048x1150.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9135\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Chemin goudronn\u00e9 de l&#8217;ancien terrain RFF. On remarque que la v\u00e9g\u00e9tation a d\u00e9j\u00e0 bien entam\u00e9 le bitume, ce qui favorise la perm\u00e9abilit\u00e9 de l&#8217;ouvrage. Source : BdF, le 11 mars 2014.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9120\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9120\" style=\"width: 1855px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9120 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-21-10-2024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1855\" height=\"783\" srcset=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-21-10-2024.jpg 1855w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-21-10-2024-300x127.jpg 300w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-21-10-2024-1024x432.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-21-10-2024-768x324.jpg 768w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-21-10-2024-1536x648.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1855px) 100vw, 1855px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9120\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sch\u00e9ma des zones inondables. L&#8217;ancien terrain RFF est situ\u00e9 en pleine zone inondable. La renaturation de la Bi\u00e8vre, sur quelques centaines de m\u00e8tres en amont de &#8220;RFF&#8221; (ainsi qu&#8217;en aval) est un tr\u00e8s bon d\u00e9but pour lutter contre le fl\u00e9au des inondations. Mais ce n&#8217;est pas une raison pour artificialiser d&#8217;autres territoires situ\u00e9s dans le lit majeur de la rivi\u00e8re. Source : mairie de Jouy-en-Josas. Lu le 21 octobre 2024 sur <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jouy-en-josas.fr\/risques_majeurs.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.jouy-en-josas.fr\/risques_majeurs.aspx<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9121\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9121\" style=\"width: 894px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9121 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-legende.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"894\" height=\"545\" srcset=\"https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-legende.jpg 894w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-legende-300x183.jpg 300w, https:\/\/contrib.city\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Zone-inondable-terrain-RFF-legende-768x468.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 894px) 100vw, 894px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9121\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">L\u00e9gende du sch\u00e9ma des zones inondables (de Jouy-en-Josas).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>(Photo de couverture : <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jouy-en-josas.fr\/les_elus.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mairie de Jouy-en-Josas<\/a>.)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dans un message public r\u00e9cent, M. 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